More on Mary & the Saints
Is it not wrong to honor saints and angels since the bible says, "You shall adore the Lord your God, and him alone you shall serve"?
Certain critics misinterpret Catholic teaching on this matter. Catholics adore God alone. He is the one we serve. The honor we show the saints is of a secondary order. It is no more an offense against God than the honor and respect we show our parents and friends.
How can Catholics rationalize such an attitude given the clear Scriptural prohibitions, as in Isaiah 42:8, "My honor I shall give to no other"?
There is no deep rationalization here, only common sense and courtesy. Of course, the mindset of those who have refashioned Christianity into a privatized sect, seeking a direct link with Christ while ignoring any semblance of a family of faith-- living and dead-- would have a hard time appreciating the communion of saints. As I said before, the highest honor and adoration goes to God alone; however, the very fact that we have natural bonds (with blood kin) and supernatural ones (in the family of the Church) demands some level of respect and affection.
What is the difference between showing honor and adoration?
Adoration is the term we properly use regarding the highest honor we show and this is directed to God. We recognize his Lordship over all creation. By honoring angels and saints we give glory to God who has worked wondrous deeds and has instilled divine virtues in them.
Does the bible say that we should honor angels?
Most certainly, it does. Three angels appeared to Abraham. His response was to bow his face to the ground and to honor them (Genesis 18:2; 19:1). Similarly, Joshua raised his eyes and saw what he at first took to be a man, standing over against him, holding a drawn sword and proclaiming, "I am a prince of the hosts of the Lord . . ." (Joshua 5:15). We read in Exodus 23:20, God saying: "Behold, I will send my angels who shall go before you. Take notice of him, and hear his voice and do not think him one condemned."
But, does not St. Paul say, "To God alone is due honor and praise"?
The apostle means that the highest honor and praise is reserved to God. Note what he says in Romans 12:10, "With honor meet each other."
What does it really mean to pray to saints?
It is a particular kind of prayer. Ultimately, it is a prayer of supplication that finds its ultimate source in God, himself. We are asking the saints to pray for us. Our prayers of adoration are reserved to God, all glory and praise is his.
Does the bible say it is permissible to ask the saints to pray for us?
Yes, it does. The bible tells us that there is a real value in requesting the prayers of people on earth and the prayers of the angels in heaven. This being the case, it is only logical that the saints, who reign with Christ in heaven and who are still a part of our family of faith, can pray and intercede for us. St. Paul makes this request: "I beseech you, therefore, brethren, through our Lord Jesus Christ, and by the charity of the Holy Spirit, that you help me in your prayers for me to God" (Romans 15:30). He said similar things in Ephesians 6:18 and Thessalonians 5:25.
Does the bible say anything about angels and saints praying for people who walk the earth?
There is evidence for this. Zechariah 1:12 documents an angel praying for the Jewish people: "Lord of hosts, how long will you not have mercy on Jerusalem, and on the cities of Judah against which you are angry." God heard and responded to the angel's prayer, saying: "You have spoken good words, consoling words . . . I will have mercy on Jerusalem." Note these words from the chief apostle: "And I will do my endeavor that after my death also you may often have prayers whereby you may keep a memory of these things." St. Peter wished to pray for his friends even after his death. The clincher that the saints pray for us is in the Book of Revelation where St. John saw four and twenty ancients "who fell down before the lamb and all had harps and golden vials full of odors which are the prayers of the saints."
But how can angels and saints be mediators when St. Paul tells us that "There is only one mediator between God and man," and his name is Jesus Christ?
Jesus is our Mediator. However, this does not rule out secondary intercessors who are assisted and used by Christ. Remember, St. Paul, himself, asked for prayers from his brethren.
Why not pray to God in a direct way, according to the fashion that Jesus taught us?
There are many instances where we do pray directly to God. However, we acknowledge that we do not come to God alone. Just as God called to himself a People of God in the Jewish nation, so too he summons a new people in the Church. We pray with and for one another. Death is no barrier to this solidarity. We beckon the saints to pray for our needs. There is a great humility in this form of prayer. We recognize our unworthiness and ask the saints to obtain for us that which may be just out of our grasp. Both prayer forms are recommended.
But if the dead are either asleep or too far off to hear us, then what use are our petitions?
The saints know rest in the Lord, but this does not mean that they have been relegated, even temporarily, to oblivion. Further, the ties that bind us, particularly our faith and love in Christ, transcend the barrier of death. There is a legitimate mystery here and yet we trust the Word of God, which testifies that angels and saints do, indeed, hear us. "There shall be joy before the angels of God upon one sinner doing penance" (Luke 15:10). The saints have joined the angels of heaven. They hear our voices.
But does not Jeremiah 17:5 say, "Cursed he who places his trust in man"?
The prophet only meant that trust in men should not displace trust in God. Note that God himself told us to observe and trust his angel (Exodus 23).
Do not Catholics go too far in calling various saints "our hope, our mercy," etc.?
These are merely signs of affection and thankfulness to our special friends among the saints. Such expressions should not be interpreted crudely as denying the singular place of God and his operation in our lives.
Why do Catholics pay special and heightened honor to the Virgin Mary?
- She was chosen by God to be the Mother of our Savior. Should we not honor the mother of the one who has saved the world? Sure.
- The appearance and the words of the angel honored Mary with titles befitting her dignity: "Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee, blessed art thou among women." Is it right to the echo the salutation of a heavenly messenger? Certainly.
- Jesus desired that we take notice of his mother and honor her, saying to John from the cross, "See your mother." Are we obliged to carry out the last words of crucified Lord? Without question, this is the case.
- The first Christians honored Mary with a most intense and intimate love. Should we do the same as brothers and sisters to Christ, adopted children of the Father, and spiritual children to Mary? Yes, the pattern and connection is clear.
- After God himself, Mary is the most perfect model of purity, justice, and holiness for us to imitate. If Mary is the queen of the saints, then is her spiritual perfection worthy of imitation? Quite so.
- Those who have honored her have been wondrously rewarded by God; the lame walked, the blind regain their sight, the sick recovered, etc. Practically speaking, would we be fools to ignore such a person and the incredible way that God continues to use her? In many ways, the miracles and messages attributed to her remind us that God is still very much aware and concerned about our plight.
Again, does it not defame God to give so much honor to a mere creature?
This honor we show her does not degrade God in the least. As a matter of fact, the respect and veneration we show Mary pleases God. We give glory to God in honoring the woman who was so wonderfully made free from sin and who said YES to God for all humanity.
Did the Virgin Mary have other children besides Jesus?
No, the bible calls her a "virgin espoused to a man whose name was Joseph . . . and the virgin's name was Mary." The Scriptures also tell us that she remained a virgin up to the birth of Jesus (Matthew 1:25). Her perpetual virginity was an accepted fact in the early Church community, taught by the Nicene Creed and the early fathers as "the glorious EVER virgin Mary."
But does this conflict with what the evangelist actually says, that "Joseph . . . knew her not till she brought forth her first born son"?
There is no conflict, just a problem with language and translation. The wording, "not till," does not mean that her virginity ended at that point or some time after. It merely stresses again that Jesus was specially conceived by divine intervention. As a sacred vessel for the presence of God, Joseph would do nothing to defile her. After the birth of Christ, and knowing full well the identity of his foster Son, Joseph and Mary lived a virginal marriage. The language here shares some similarity with Genesis 8:7: "The raven went forth from the ark and did not return TILL the waters dried up." The raven did not return at all. As with the virginity of Mary, it was a perpetual status. The same expression is used in 1 Kings 15:30.
But if Jesus is called Mary's FIRST BORN, does not this readily imply other children?
No, and again, language is a serious issue in biblical interpretation. The term "First born" was applied to the FIRST BORN of every Jewish woman, regardless of whether other children followed. A case in point is Joshua 17:1. The frequent mention of the brethren of Jesus finds several reliable explanations. There is evidence that in some cases it refers to cousins (especially when a woman other than Mary is mentioned as their mother) and in other instances it may simply be an extension of referring to his followers as his brethren.
Does the bible say that Mary was always free from original sin?
We read in Genesis 3:15: "I will put enmities between you and the woman, and your seed and her seed. He shall crush your head." The seed is interpreted as Christ Jesus, the woman is the Virgin Mary, and the serpent is Satan. Certain older Catholic renditions translated the last line here as "She shall crush your head." Thus, in statuary and other imagery, she is often envisioned stepping upon a serpent. This translation peculiarity is fortuitous in that modern scholarship tells us that a more exact rendering would be, "They [all the descendants of the woman] will strike at your head." The Mother of the Redeemer is now the Mother of the Redeemed. She is the image and model of the Church. They enmity between her sons and daughters against those in league with the devil is a perpetual one. Such an interpretation would not admit to even a momentary moment of reconciliation. She has always been, and always will be, the one made holy by Christ's saving grace-- a favor which reached from the cross backwards through history, to the very moment of her conception-- all so that the divine and all-holy one might pass through a sinless vessel. The angel's salutation affirms this truth, "hail full of grace." There is no space or vacuum in her for sin. The angel continues, "blessed art thou among women" (Luke 1:26,33). The holiness of Mary distinguishes from all other women.
Are there any other reasons that might prove that Mary was free from original sin?
- It would have been unbecoming of an infinitely pure God to be incarnated in a woman who was or had been under the dominion of sin, even if just for a moment.
- Christ takes his flesh from the flesh of Mary; as God and as untouched by sin, he could not assume a sinful flesh.
- The Holy Spirit has guided the Church on this matter and thus it can be trusted.
- Mary appeared at Lourdes in France and declared herself the IMMACULATE CONCEPTION. As verification of this message, healing water sprung mysteriously from the ground and as a lasting testimony thousands have been cured by it from all kinds of diseases.



